Once again I have been challenged on my numbers by
he[sic] lazy left. The lesser minds who like to make up numbers out of thin air, Who like to yell scream and use foul language to try to prove their point. Once again with my good friend Google and a little work I have been able to dig out the facts to prove my point and show the hypocrisy of the left.
OK, let's go. Starting out with name-calling and denigrating your critics makes me think that what follows might not be civilized political discourse. I like Google, too. I don't think of it as a scholarly resource. What are your sources, Stacie? Hopefully not just Google. Notice that I provide links to the pages where I get my info. And that they are all reputable sources.
Work and facts, the enemy of the lazy left.
Once again I will state I am not in any way in favor of dog fighting. It is illegal in 48 states, a felony in Tennessee and should stay that way. I am doing this for comparison only.
Glad we have that out of the way. Why do you feel that you have to tell us that you don't support dog fighting? You didn't mention cock fighting, Campie, what's your position on that? How do you feel about stiffer penalties for these types of animal cruelty? Do you think there should be a difference in fighting dogs vs. fighting chickens? Would you support/sponsor legislation in Nashville to upgrade chicken fighting to a felony?
Now, on to the facts.
ASPCA estimates 10,000 dogs a year are "involved" in dog
fighting. I am not sure if they mean killed or "involved" as far as breading [sic], training, dogs that fight and live or what but for the sake of argument we will say they mean killed. The ASPCA is a pro animal rights group and some people may say their numbers are inflated but just for comparison we will use them.
Let's assume that nearly all dogs involved in dog fighting are killed. I doubt that they have dogs who are used exclusively for breeding, and others for training, and still others for fighting, etc. They breed successful fighting dogs in order to beget more successful fighting dogs.
On average each day 25 Americans die at the hands of illegal aliens in the United States. Twelve Americans are murdered by illegal aliens. Another ten Americans are killed by drunk-driving illegal aliens. Finally, an additional three Americans will die because of negligent homicides by illegal aliens, such as running a red light, speeding, or the negligent handling of a dangerous weapon. That total works out to 9125 killed.
Is that 9125 killed annually? Source, please? Why don't you back up your statements with sources? Do that, and I'll find you more credible.
The number of abortions a year numbers are derived from pro-abortion sources courtesy of The Alan Guttmacher Institute and Planned Parenthood's Family Planning Perspectives so they are probably a little low, Still we will use them.
So the ASPCA lies by inflating the number of dogs involved in fighting, and Planned Parenthood and The Guttmacher Institute lie by under reporting the number of abortions performed annually? I see, the left are a bunch of lying, filthy scumbags, while the right is squeaky clean. Like this guy, and this one, and let's not forget this one. And the biggest angel of them all, this guy. Wait, when the hell did we start talking about abortion? I thought we were talking about illegal immigration. For that matter, weren't we actually talking about dog fighting?
Number of abortions per year: Approximately 46 Million
Number of abortions per day: Approximately 126,000
Number of abortions per year: 1.37 Million (1996)
Number of abortions per day: Approximately 3,700
We will use the smaller U.S numbers.
Why not use the smaller US numbers. Since our dogfighting numbers are for the US, and not worldwide. What does all this have to do with dog fighting? Oh, I see. If we weren't aborting all our fetuses, we would be too busy taking care of our kids to fight dogs, right? Is that your point? Oh, then what the crap ARE you talking about?
So lets do some simple math shall we?
+ 9,125 Killed by illegals
= 1,379,125 Total killed
So now should we compare?
Yes, I think we should.
10,000 dogs killed a year in dog fighting.
1,379,125 people killed a year by illegals and abortions.
Wait a minute! You mean that the total number of people you dubiously claim are killed each year by illegal immigrants PLUS the total number of abortions performed annually in the US is MORE THAN the number of dogs involved in dog fighting in the US?!
My mind is blown! Let's try this with something else: Cardiovascular disease killed 871,500 people in the US in 2004. And in the same year, 42,836 people were killed in traffic accidents, and 2 people were killed by shark attacks in the US.
Let's do some math of our own.
871,500 CV disease deaths
+ 42,836 traffic deaths
=914,336 total deaths
2 people killed in 2004 by sharks.
914,336 people killed in 2004 by traffic and CV disease.
At that rate if dog fighting continued but abortion stopped and all illegals left the US immediately then the numbers killed would equal out in only 137 years!
Sarcasm!!! Ha, ha! I love it! And if we conquered heart disease and quit driving, it would only take 457,168 years for the sharks to catch up! Your point has yet to be made.
Once again I will say both are important but I will ask what do you think is the bigger problem? what do you value more, Children or dogs? Does the left respect the life of a dog more then they respect the life of a human? where are your energies, outrage and interest focused?
posted by the rep @ 7:34 PM
Notice the capitalization of "children" in the middle of the sentence, and the failure to capitalize "what" and "where" when they begin sentences. Did you go to elementary school, Campie? Why does everything come back to abortion and illegal immigration with you? It's funny. In the comments to his posts, his supporters (whose comments are nearly the only ones
posted) chastise the left for changing the subject in their arguments. I love it! Once again, weren't we talking about dog fighting? And then, all of a sudden, we're talking about abortion and immigration.
Now, Rep. Campfield, tell us what you have done in the legislature to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies in the state of Tennessee. I know you introduced a bill a while back that would make the name, address and social security number of anyone who receives an abortion in Tennessee a matter of public record. How would that bill have helped? What else have you
done? Notice that I have avoided any name-calling (even though you called the left, and by extension me, lazy and of lesser intelligence) and (with one very small exception) objectionable language. I have stated only facts, and backed up my statements with the sources I am citing. I have nothing but contempt for you.